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August 19, 2007

Apologies to Juan Cole
Posted by Ilan Goldenberg

Yes.  He should have been on the list.  I left him off because I was pointing out high quality experts in the hated Washington think tank world.  Anyway, it was a partial list off the top of my head.



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Professor Juan Cole is an American treasure. His "Informed Comment" is just that. I send him a letter once in a while, usually when I disagree, signed "Your faithful student", and I always get a terse response like "Well, I made you think.--Cheers, Juan" (Don't tell me that it's probably from a grad student--leave me my illusions.)

Yes. We need so many experts on the Baha'i of the 19th Century because that helps us understand force projection, the disparate ethnography of Iraq and how it can be bent to some sort of regional stability.

And since Cole famously supported the invasion of Iraq (despite his most recent declarations to the opposite), does he still fit on the "list?"

Or, one could read the latest on making Cole-slaw of the region's history, past and present, at http://iraqpundit.blogspot.com/2007/08/cutting-edge-cole.html

Yes. He called the village "The Circumcision."

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I think there's another dynamic at play here which doesn't seem to get mentioned in this VSP conversation, namely that the more topics that you list as having expertise in, the more likely you are to have a sense of the over-arching storylines within each one, but lack a sense of the details which are important in the specific decision-making process, or more likely the ability to distinguish between which small details are relevant to a specific decision.

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I read this as frustration and anger. Atrios is talking past Goldenberg. He's looking at people who say that O'hanlan and Pollock are serious critics of the war. They most certainly are not.
As you know, Atrios thinks the politics will play out in Sept. with the administration saying,
"the surge is working...even Pollock and O'Hanlan say so..." and then those Very Serious People will continue to debate how many troops should be in Iraq instead of debating how to get the hell out.

Since the acceptable level of discourse is only center-right to far-right we, as a country, will continue to have foreign policy debates like, "should we bomb Iran" until those who champion these policies are dismissed as the hacks and wackos that they are.

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