Democracy Arsenal

« Helmand, Oh Helmand | Main | John Bolton Offers His Advice on Iran and North Korea »

February 04, 2010

Cantor's Faulty Terror Trial Arguments in Politico
Posted by Adam Blickstein

Rep. Eric Cantor and the GOP are waging a war on America's legal system and the constitution. Their tools of attack are lies, bellicose rhetoric, and putting politics ahead of national security. But as hard as they try, reality and the facts continue to rebuke them.  Case in point, while arguing that terrorists should not be tried in American courts--something President Bush successfully did nearly 200 times--Rep. Cantor makes the following argument in Politico:
A clever defense lawyer will be ethically bound to take advantage of strong legal precedent from the Second Circuit under a doctrine called “Outrageous Government Conduct.” In the Second Circuit, a court finding of outrageous conduct by the government – after the arrest of a defendant – can lead to the outright dismissal of the charges. In this nightmare scenario, the defendant is freed and the case is over. Why would a lawyer think he could win that legal motion in these cases?
...It would be naive to assume that aggressive lawyers, backed by liberal support groups, won’t argue that a higher principal warrants dismissal based on alleged torture and abusive conduct. According to government documents made public by the administration, 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohamed was waterboarded 183 times. Certainly an argument of Outrageous Government Conduct will be made and the Second Circuit is the only circuit court that has adopted this dramatic remedy of acquittal. In light of this, one has to wonder why the attorney general and president were almost boastful in their prediction of easy victory in court. Was this a sign of confidence or legal naivety?
Cantor uses this rationale, that torture-based Outrageous Government Conduct might set Khalid Sheikh Mohammed free (something that would be entirely prevented by other national security imperatives) to support his claim that military commissions are the only option available to prevent KSM from falling prey to such legal gamesmanship. But it is Cantor that is naive and simply failed to do his homework. 

Last year during military commission proceedings, charges were dropped against Mohammed al-Qahtani because Susan Crawford, the top Bush administration official in charge of deciding whether to bring Guantanamo Bay detainees to trial, deemed he was tortured and therefore she could not refer the case for prosecution, the same thing Cantor claims would be impossible in a military court:
"We tortured [Mohammed al-]Qahtani," said Susan J. Crawford, in her first interview since being named convening authority of military commissions by Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates in February 2007. "His treatment met the legal definition of torture. And that's why I did not refer the case" for prosecution.

Crawford, a retired judge who served as general counsel for the Army during the Reagan administration and as Pentagon inspector general when Dick Cheney was secretary of defense, is the first senior Bush administration official responsible for reviewing practices at Guantanamo to publicly state that a detainee was tortured.

Crawford, 61, said the combination of the interrogation techniques, their duration and the impact on Qahtani's health led to her conclusion. "The techniques they used were all authorized, but the manner in which they applied them was overly aggressive and too persistent...You think of torture, you think of some horrendous physical act done to an individual. This was not any one particular act; this was just a combination of things that had a medical impact on him, that hurt his health. It was abusive and uncalled for. And coercive. Clearly coercive. It was that medical impact that pushed me over the edge" to call it torture, she said.

Crawford used the same rational in a military commission that Cantor cites would set KSM free in a civilian court. There is no question that Cantor is wrong, that military commissions are not some sacrosanct panacea to the potential problems we may face while trying to prosecute terrorists in civilian courts. The same motion he describes could be (and in Qahtani's case was) filed in a military commission and there is no reason to assume that a military commission panel will treat it any differently than a criminal court.

In fact, it may be easier for such roadblocks to be overcome in civilian courts since there is far more precedent and structure in our judicial system than there is in the extremely flimsy and rarely used military commission system. And in a previous terror trial, a Federal judge actually denied the same motion Cantor flails his arms about. 

Even though there were clear indications he was tortured, Jose Padilla was in the end convicted in a civilian court. And this is after the Bush administration failed to prosecute him in a military commission years after being held as an enemy combatant.The judge in the case explicitly rejected the same premise Cantor says would let terrorists flee prosecution:

A federal judge refused to dismiss terrorism charges against Jose Padilla over claims that the alleged Al Qaeda operative was tortured in U.S. military custody, removing one of the last major obstacles to the start of his trial next week.

U.S. District Judge Marcia Cooke stressed in a 12-page order filed late Monday that she was not passing judgment on the torture allegations. Rather, she said the effort to dismiss the case for "outrageous government conduct" was faulty on legal grounds.

Padilla's lawyers claim that during the 3 1/2 years Padilla was held as an "enemy combatant" at a Navy brig he was routinely subjected to harsh treatment and

Faulty on legal grounds. Just like Cantor's and the GOP's attacks on civilian trials and the judicial system are faulty on the grounds of reality.

TrackBack

TrackBack URL for this entry:
http://www.typepad.com/services/trackback/6a00d83451c04d69e201287761cd81970c

Listed below are links to weblogs that reference Cantor's Faulty Terror Trial Arguments in Politico:

Comments

very well written post.I would like to say Republican Minority Whip Eric Cantor’s bold prediction last week that Republicans could regain Congress in 2010 came as a surprise to most pundits and political observers. But it's not necessarily wishful thinking....

If you have PANERAI Watches , I still have my idea to achieve.

We all know these years china pallet racking in china develop very fast, now the design capacity of racking is very strong in china.
You can see every kind of china racking in china, includingDrive in racking,
cantilever racking, shelving,Longspan shelving, dexion racking,. We also have very experienced engineer to do the design and instlaation job.

as a whole contractor for refrigeration equipment, design, manufacturing, installation of cold store

Yellow lens of Ray ban wayfarer can 100% filter UV, allowing infrared and 83% visible light through the lens.

Its greatest feature is that you can filter the sun's most dazzling blue.

Sunlight through the atmosphere, the most performance is the blue light, which is why you see the sky is blue. Yellow lens filters blue light, the natural scenery can be seen more clearly. So driving with a yellow lens Ray ban 2010 sunglasses, you can more clearly see from the vehicle.

Ray ban sunglasses sale


ray ban 2010 sunglasses sale


ray ban sunglasses sale


ray ban wayfarer message from http://www.eyewear-rayban.com

We don't take the luxury route, just playing crazy exaggeration and assertive personality. In addition we break the traditional and innovative stainless steel bracelet, stainless steel rings and so on. Our stainless steel jewelry has great stage effects. The color, texture and design are very fashion. The breakthrough in molding achieves the strong sense of art stainless steel jewelry. It experiences a foreign land and customs, tracking the trend of the international fashion accessories. Our company welcomes the large stainless steel jewelry wholesalers to e-mail consultation.
E-mail: sus360@hotmail.com
website: http://www.sus360.com

Films are made up of a series of individual images called frames. When these images are shown rapidly in succession, a viewer has the illusion that motion is occurring. The viewer cannot see the flickering between frames due to an effect known as persistence of vision,

I agree with the above.

emmm....my opinion is the oppsite.

During each day, up to a hand wearing a (worn on the ring finger or little finger, never to be worn on links of london saleother fingers, if the hands have been wearing a wedding ring or engagement ring, the hand would not have worn anything else), links of london sale can be put on watch, pearl bracelet (or other beads of the bracelet).

CHI flat iron become the best choice of hair straightners for young women. it is the CHI flat iron Pink that makes women more charming with varieties of hair styles that they like.CHI flat irons can not only straighten your hair but also curl your hair in fashionable styles. nowghd.com online store offer CHI flat iron wholesale in low price and best service!

Very informative and trustworthy blog. Please keep updating with great posts like this one. I have booked marked your site and am about to email it to a few friends of mine that I know would enjoy reading

BANGKOK –Air Max Hopes rose Tuesday for an end to deadly mayhem in Thailand's capital as leaders of a protestAir Max 90 movement occupyingAir Max 95 central Bangkok said they would unconditionally accept an offer by the Thai Senate to mediateproduct_32_air+max+ltd%28men%29.html>airmaxltd talks.Scattered violence continued Tuesday in the standoff between soldiers and anti-government Red Shirt protesters that has killedproduct_39_nike+dunk+low.html >Nike dunk low 37 people in the past six days.The country's upper house of Parliament on Monday offered to broker negotiations between the warring sides providing they both stopped that fighting that has transformed large swathsproduct_38_nike+dunk+high.html>nike dunk high of downtown Bangkok to a war zone.A Red Shirt leader, Weng Tojirakarn, told a news conference "we accept the proposal from the Senate. Nike Air Max" Another protest leader, Nattawut Saikua, said, "It would not be right if I set conditions for the Senate."It was not immediately known whether the government had agreedairmaxltd to the Senate talksIn perhaps the most hopeful of recent signs that Thailand's two-month-long crisis could be resolved, both sides MondayNike dunk low evening also revealed that the government's chief negotiator and a Red Shirt leader had discussed negotiations in a mobile telephone call.

Do you want a pair of shoes which will make you appear the most charming? christian louboutin discount here. Or maybe you want stylish hairstyle and to style by yourself, chi iron are sold I our company. ghd hair straighteners is a luxury brand which enjoy great fame in the hair iron industry.

Do you want a pair of shoes which will make you appear the most charming? christian louboutin discount here. Or maybe you want stylish hairstyle and to style by yourself, chi iron are sold I our company. ghd hair straighteners is a luxury brand which enjoy great fame in the hair iron industry.

In Qingdao, Nike dunk lowthe most prosperous one section of a 28-story high-rise residential, the second and third layers have a layer of about 1.5 m high pipe layer, here is the residential property cleaning and security Collectively, airmaxltd the "home." As this layer of barrier elevator, climb the stairs to the second floor and a half to get to this level, mostly through the elevator down the owners, do not know their blocks, there are so many level, nike air forcefew people took note of the buildings themselves These "channel family."Pipe layer true, sewer, heating pipes, water pipe

The official said Air Max it would wait for the Israeli government issued a formal statement.
The Israeli army had argued that the square block in the block bound to the Gaza Strip, the international relief Air Max 90operation in the fleet is due to Turkey's rescue boat on board one of the humanitarian activist first attack on Israel, the Israeli army returned fire only of.
Israeli army Air Max 95 opened fire caused nine deaths humanitarian activists. Latest information, including the eight Turks, and an American Turks.
Israel said the Israeli military has been investigating the matter.

seslisohbet siteleri arasında ekol bir adres sestonum hemen sohbette başlamak icin sestonum 'tıklayınız..! seslisohbet ve seslichat adreslerinin gözdesi hemen tıklayarak seslisohbet yapmaya başlaya bilirsiniz..!

sestonum
seslichat
seslisohbet


FS-91C Hydraulic Hose Crimping Machine
http://www.fivestar-tools.com
http://www.asiaups.com

Türkiyenin ilk Hiphop Sitesi için tıkla -> Hiphop <-
Gekko G Fan Sitesi için tıkla -> Gekko G <-
Mask Animasyon sitesi için tıkla -> Mask animasyon <-

Part of the fun of being a sneakerhead is trying to make sense of buying rare kicks from international hookups, and the occasionally inevitable loss in translation. That’s the case with this new nike air max, which we previewed in April as debuting a new shade from Nike called ‘Menthol’. Turns out, this was likely taken from ‘Menth’, which is how the Swoosh codes ‘Cool Mint’ for French customers. So Cool Mint is here to stay, and performs a fine supporting role opposite a huge splash of Wicked Purple. Possibly the ‘coolest’ looking shoe you’ll see all summer, these new AM1s for ladies just dropped at nike air 2010

Good love makes you see the whole world from one person while bad love makes you abandon the whole world for one person. 

When you feel hurt and your tears are gonna to drop. Please look up andhave a look at the sky once belongs to us. If the sky is still vast,clouds are still clear, you shall not cry because my leave doesn't takeaway the world that belongs to you.

One is always on a strange road, watching strange scenery and listeningto strange music. Then one day, you will find that the things you tryhard to forget are already gone.

Love is a lamp, while friendship is the shadow. When the lamp is off,you will find the shadow everywhere. Friend is who can give youstrength at last.  

I love you not for who you are, but for who I am before you.

Have classy, sexy, unique or designer swimwear on mind? Then you have come to the right place! Molly Brown's Swimwear is a one stop store offering the latest in women's swimwear. Our women swimwear store offers everything a woman needs and wants; from designer swimsuits, exclusive swimwear bikinis to fantastic beachwear accessories for the complete beach look! Vitamin A Gold, Vitamin A Silver, Vitamin A Signature, Luli Fama, L*Space, Chio, Odabash and other designer swimwear labels are offered to let women unearth the diva in them!
uk bikini
Ed Hardy swimwear
bikini swimwear
At Molly Brown's we understand that women's swimwear is all about styles, designs and fit, and ensure that our women's swimsuits are all that you ever desired! Women's designer swimwear available at Molly Brown's do not just contour your bodies but glam up your personality as well. After all, that is what women's swimwear is all about, styling the beauty of a woman!

The?Paul Smith Stores?reflect the character of Paul and his designs, an unmistakable Englishness augmented by the unexpected. The shops house the Paul Smith collections and an extensive selection of jewellery, books, art, antiques and an array of interesting and beautiful products. Work of British designers is often showcased alongside Paul's personal collections of art or curios.
paul smith sale
paul smith bag
paul smith shirt
paul smith shoes
paul smith wallet
Paul Smith is global - the collection is wholesaled to thirty five countries and has fourteen shops in England. Paul Smith shops are found in London, Nottingham, Paris, Milan, New York, Hong Kong, Singapore, Taiwan, the Philippines, Korea, Kuwait, U.A.E. a€“ and over two hundred throughout Japan. Paul remains fully involved in the Japanese business; designing the clothes, choosing the fabrics, approving the shop locations and overseeing every development within the company. Paul Smith also has impressive and diverse showrooms in London, Paris, Milan, New York and Tokyo.

Paul Smith continues to be an integral part of the company; he is both designer and chairman. Paul Smith is continually involved in every aspect of the business and as a result, Paul Smith Limited retains a personal touch often lost in companies of a similar size.

I links of london will tell you another story. The master wants to eat delicious food, so he invites a famous cook. The cook says that she can not sure the food must be good and fine. The master says why. The links of london sale cook says that he only is in charge of the seasoning. The master sa links of london jewelleryys why. The cook says that I am only in charge of the part of the seasoning.

Are you fighting in Final Fantasy XIV for FFXIV Gil or Final Fantasy XIV Gil?
Can you suffer yourself being called newbie in FFXIV Gil game?
Are you seeking unofficial Buy FFXIV Gil cheats or Final Fantasy XIV guides in order to make Final Fantasy XIV Gil faster?
Can you get millions of Cheap FFXIV Gil in one day?
Even if you know how to farm Buy Final Fantasy XIV Gil you have to prepare enough Final Fantasy XIV Power Leveling first to buy height class Final Fantasy XIV Items, to upgrade your Final Fantasy XIV characters.
Buy aika gold
Then why not Buy FFXIV Gil from us?
In Final Fantasy XIV it's the fastest way FF14 Gil,for you to get rich. We are online 24 hours a day ready and 7 days one week to power up your FFXIV Gil accounts with FFXIV Gil. Here is the best place for the Final Fantasy XIV Online players to buy your Final Fantasy XIV Gil.
We are the professional website in FFXIV GIL sale.FFXIV GIL here,We are professional FFXIV Power Leveling online. We update price every single day to make sure we are the lowest in the market.(we don't compare price with scam sites which uses unbelievable low price to deceive.)
Our slogan:Cheapest price, Fastest delivery, Best service!

Cheap aika gold
In the 2 years we are in this field , AIKA Goldbuilt many business with tens of thousands of customers. They are very satisfied with our service.So if you want to get a log of Cheap FFXIV Gil ,no doubt ,come to our website to buy. Our customer service is ready for you on line now!(GM MMO)

thank you very much to do this for us, you can have a look at the cheap ugg boots.

Measure out a good length of wire line or Links of London Letters, if the balls are larger, leather or cotton cord. Should be enough to wrap around your neck than 5 inches. If you are using wire, slide a bead embedded in one end and a part of clasp. Pass the cable through the securing of accounts, adjust, and then flatten the Links of London Sale with crimping pliers. Trim the tail of wire. String accounts. If you want a symmetrical pattern, start with the Links of London Pendants and add segments on each side. Add the second part of the hook or, if you are using a snap hook Should silver jewelry be plated? Silver coating can be done with rhodium, white gold, yellow gold and platinum, even. Another thing you should know when to buy silver Links of London online may no longer be done by hand or machine. Of course, pieces of handmade silver are priced much higher than machine-made counterparts because more value is placed on the works of human hands.

that is very kind of you to do this for us, thank you very much, you can have a look at the nice and cheap ugg boots.

that is very kind of you to do this for us, thank you very much, you can have a look at the nice and warm ugg boots.

A clever defense lawyer will be ethically bound to take advantage of strong legal precedent from the Second Circuit under a doctrine called “Outrageous Government Conduct.” In the Second Circuit, a court finding of outrageous conduct by the government – after the arrest of a defendant – can lead to the outright dismissal of the charges. In this nightmare scenario, the defe

Women's underwear can be a fetish for some men, I think this is very logical, obviously just the fact that women bring something sexy and go to the room with their wives is something irresistible to many. This article clearly reflects the more attractive side of some women, like me much, I'll be waiting for the next article. thanks.

To be honest, this article made me understand the genuineness. I understood many things, Related to the topic. I keep on wondering why people keep on wondering so much on the topic. People should start reading your blog in order to get maximum information on the stuff. Things will become more significant after reading your articles. The way these article are full of information and the comments posted show the popularity of your posts.

Me and my friend were arguing about an issue similar to this! Now I know that I was right. lol! Thanks for the information you post. ผลบอล ผลบอล ผลบอล

This article made me understand the genuineness. I understood many things, Related to the topic. I keep on wondering why people keep on wondering so much on the topic. People should start reading your blog in order to get maximum information on the stuff. ibcbet sbobet แทงบอล

This is an excellent post for me and I really enjoyed reading your blog.I hope you will keep updating your content constantly as you have one dedicated reader here. search engine optimization การทำ seo seo thailand seo

Great recap, I can’t even believe you were able to write that.I got so much anxiety just watching that and I thought I was the only one who had unnatural rage/hate for Kelly, glad I’m not the only one, as I was getting concerned. คอนโดใหม่ คอนโด บ้าน ขายคอนโด ซื้อคอนโด

Hola,Ha hecho un trabajo muy bueno. Hay muchas personas en busca de eso ahora van a encontrar suficientes fuentes por tus consejos.espera para obtener más consejos acerca de que

I like your post very much. It is very good to see your excellent work. We can learn many things and knowledge from your extensive knowledge article. Thank you very much. Keeping doing these, we will have a look again.

It is very good to see your excellent work. We can learn many things and knowledge from your extensive knowledge article.

very well written post.I would like to say Republican Minority Whip Eric Cantor’s bold pr

Skönt att vara besöka din blogg igen, har det varit månader för mig. Väl här artikeln som jag har väntat så länge. Jag behöver den här artikeln för att slutföra mitt uppdrag i kollegiet, och den har samma tema med din artikel. Tack, bra aktie.@!@@@@@

Really great post, Thank you for sharing This knowledge.Excellently written article, if only all bloggers offered the same level of content as you, the internet would be a much better place. Please keep it up!

Grande informazione, hai un blog meraviglioso e un ottimo articolo!

Good article,thanks for share info

Thank you very much for sharing such an informative article with us.

These are wonderful! Thank you for sharing.

SBOBET

I am probablyTERA RMT
in the minority C9 RMT
in my appreciation ofGE RMT
summer thunderstorms. FW RMT
The sights, sounds and smell of a storm, in most cases, are a welcome occurrence in my view. The highlights include the tall stately thunderheads, especially in a late afternoon sky -- an awesome spectacle of color and form. The slow rumble of thunder and the

hange it!" est un concept d'habillage mural imaginé par le designer russe Amirko Aka Amirkhan Abdurakhmanov qui permet, à la façon des panneaux publicitaires, de changer de visuel par une simple rotation de ses facettes triangulées. Tel un grand paravent, ce séparateur de pièce vous permet de changer d'ambiance au grès de votre déco et de votre humeu

sdfdsfdsfsd

Nice post Amazing, I found your site on Bing looking around for something completely unrelated and I really enjoyed your site. I will stop by again to read some more posts.


Facebook Developers Facebook Developer Facebook Applications Facebook Application Facebook App Facebook Apps

Olen tahtnud rohkem teada konkreetsetel teemadel, kuid paljud veebilehed aitaks mind teavitamisel mulle teed ma ootasin. See jättis mulle palju küsimus, kuid pärast lugemist oma artikkel, sain vastuseks kõikidele küsimustele. Sa oled liiga lahe kutt!

Thank you so very much for taking the time to share…very useful, indeed!

The master wants to eat delicious food, so he invites a famous cook. The cook says that she can not sure the food must be good and fine. คอนโด ขายคอนโด ซื้อคอนโด

Thank you for good article , information I think great blog and good content I'll follow this site you everyday. 7M Livescore โหลดเกม PSP แจกเกมส์ PSP เกมส์ PSP โหลด Hope to see more article. Please write more and more about this. ผลบอล

Wow, Great post,Nice work, I would like tütüne son to read your blog every day As long Balderesi as our government yemek tarifi do the best, manzaralar I think we must appreciate them. nanomatik Its not easy to rule a country. moliva You don’t know bout that coz you orjin krem too busy to say some critics. formula 21 You should want and klavis panax see what happen. Zayıflama Thanks

I am so glad this internet thing works and your article really helped me. Might take you up on that home advice you. http://www.jacketsparkastore.com

Post a comment

Comments are moderated, and will not appear on this weblog until the author has approved them.

This weblog only allows comments from registered users. To comment, please Sign In.

Emeritus Contributors
Founder
Subscribe
Sign-up to receive a weekly digest of the latest posts from Democracy Arsenal.
Email: 
Powered by TypePad

Disclaimer

The opinions voiced on Democracy Arsenal are those of the individual authors and do not represent the views of any other organization or institution with which any author may be affiliated.
Read Terms of Use