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July 21, 2009

F-22 victory about more than just a plane
Posted by Max Bergmann

It is sometimes easy to overstate the significance of a fight over a particular weapon system. But in this case I think it is fair to say that this is a huge huge victory for Obama and Gates and is a big step forward toward instituting a strategic shift within the Pentagon.

The Senate resoundingly supported an amendment from Senators Levin and McCain 58-40 to strip funding for the F-22. The margin of the victory is shocking given just last week Levin pulled the amendment for fear of not having enough votes. But in the last week Gates and Obama went for it. Obama stuck his neck out and threatened the first veto of his presidency. Gates lobbied aggressively, highlighting the opportunity costs of keeping the F-22 and tying it to his ability to grow the ground forces by another 22,000.

But this fight was more than just about the F-22. It was also about whether the Pentagon would be able to institutionalize the lessons from Iraq and Afghanistan and finally move out of the Cold War strategic mindset that still dominates. Gates has sought to institute a strategic shift within the Pentagon, focusing on developing a more balanced force that is not only capable of fighting conventional wars, but is capable of doing the full spectrum of operations. The military has begun to transition toward this new outlook - moving out of the mindset that labeled stability operations as "operations other than war" and that has focused on big ticket conventional items.   

Yet Congress has - and will always have - a more parochial focus. Where big ticket items are protected at all costs - whether or not they make strategic sense. Therefore the odds that Congress would go along with Gates and Obama did not look good. The F-22 is an amazing plane, by far the best fighter in the world. It was being built in 46 states and the defense industry was out in full force in the midst of a severe recession fanning fears that 100,000 jobs would be lost if the plane was scrapped.

But the F-22 – despite being cool – has little utility. It was designed to fight the next generation of Soviet fighters that were never built and comes at tremendous cost. It has not been used in combat missions in Iraq or Afghanistan, since the plane only has one real function – fighting other fighters – something that the cheaper and more versatile F-35, which is being built in large for the Navy, Air Force, and Marines, is more than capable of doing. So the Raptor is expensive, unnecessary, and its roles are duplicated by another more cost-effective aircraft. It is the prime example of a big weapon system that does little to enhance our security. Conservative KT McFarland even said, “The only thing we should do with the F-22 Raptor is rename it -- The White Elephant.”

So Obama and Gates drew the line in the sand on the F-22 and told Congress you are either with us in moving in a new strategic direction or you are against us and for business as usual. So what makes this such a big victory is not that Obama and Gates “won” but that they got the Senate – by killing the F-22 – to back their strategic shift centered on building a more balanced force. 

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This is a temporary challenge that will peak in the coming year and abate over the course of the next three years," Gates told a Pentagon press conference.

One small victory in a long march toward sanity.

The military has begun to transition toward this new outlook - moving out of the mindset that labeled stability operations as "operations other than war" and that has focused on big ticket conventional items.

Only by chronicling and confronting the past in a comprehensive, bipartisan fashion can we reclaim our moral authority and establish a credible path forward to meet the complex challenges of a post-Sept.

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Gates has sought to institute a strategic shift within the Pentagon, focusing on developing a more balanced force that is not only capable of fighting conventional wars, but is capable of doing the full spectrum of operations.

It was designed to fight the next generation of Soviet fighters that were never built and comes at tremendous cost.

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Don't assume Obama knew anything about this. The story indicates it was White House aides demanding this change, and they are quite capable of doing something so silly on their own.

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It was being built in 46 states and the defense industry was out in full force in the midst of a severe recession fanning fears that 100,000 jobs would be lost if the plane was scrapped.

If they were to enter into a war that requires advanced air to air capabilities, they wouldn't be surprised if they would have something else up their sleeve.

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The military has begun to transition toward this new outlook - moving out of the mindset that labeled stability operations as "operations other than war" and that has focused on big ticket conventional items.

The F-22 is an amazing plane, by far the best fighter in the world. It was being built in 46 states and the defense industry was out in full force in the midst of a severe recession fanning fears that 100,000 jobs would be lost if the plane was scrapped.

The story indicates it was White House aides demanding this change,and they are quite capable of doing something so silly on their own.

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The story indicates it was White House aides demanding this change, and they are quite capable of doing something so silly on their own.

It has not been used in combat missions in Iraq or Afghanistan, since the plane only has one real function – fighting other fighters – something that the cheaper and more versatile F-35, which is being built in large for the Navy, Air Force.

It was designed to fight the next generation of Soviet fighters that were never built and comes at tremendous cost.

The odds that Congress would go along with Gates and Obama did not look good.

Nice post the only thing we should do with the F-22 Raptor is rename it - The White Elephant.

What makes this such a big victory is not that Obama and Gates “won” but that they got the Senate – by killing the F-22 – to back their strategic shift centered on building a more balanced force.

It was designed to fight the next generation of Soviet fighters that were never built and comes at tremendous cost.

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The military has begun to transition toward this new outlook..

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The military has begun to transition toward this new outlook - moving out of the mindset that labeled stability operations as "operations other than war" and that has focused on big ticket conventional items.

Obama and Gates drew the line in the sand on the F-22 and told Congress you are either with us in moving in a new strategic direction or you are against us and for business as usual.

The F-22 is built in 46 states and it is an amazing plane, by far the best fighter in the world.

If they were to enter into a war that requires advanced air to air capabilities,I wouldn't be surprised if they would have something else up our sleeve.

I got the point but still I think it has not been used in combat missions in Iraq or Afghanistan, since the plane only has one real function – fighting other fighters.

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Moving out of the mindset that labeled stability operations as "operations other than war" and that has focused on big ticket conventional items. thanks for shared this with us.

Gates told a Pentagon press conference,this is a temporary challenge that will peak in the coming year and abate over the course of the next three years.

The story indicates it was White House aides demanding this change,and they are quite capable of doing something so silly on their own.

I got the point but still I think it has not been used in combat missions in Iraq or Afghanistan, since the plane only has one real function – fighting other fighters.

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It was about whether the Pentagon would be able to institutionalize the lessons from Iraq and Afghanistan and finally move out of the Cold War strategic mindset that still dominates.

I think moving out of the mindset that labeled stability operations as "operations other than war" and that has focused on big ticket conventional items.

The story indicates it was White House aides demanding this change, and they are quite capable of doing something so silly on their own.

The military has begun to transition toward this new outlook moving out of the mindset that labeled stability operations as "operations other than war" and that has focused on big ticket conventional items.

Obama and Gates drew the line in the sand on the F-22 and told Congress you are either with us in moving in a new strategic direction or you are against us and for business as usual.

If they were to enter into a war that requires advanced air to air capabilities, I wouldn't be surprised if they would have something else up their sleeve.

I think only by chronicling and confronting the past in a comprehensive, bipartisan fashion can we reclaim our moral authority and establish a credible path forward to meet the complex challenges of a post-Sept.

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