Democracy Arsenal

« What NYC Terror Trial Uproar Changes: Nothing | Main | A New Twist on Population Centric COIN »

January 29, 2010

Jindal Jumps Aboard the Keep America Afraid Wagon
Posted by Adam Blickstein

The pattern's becoming a bit clear, isn't it? After wading through 8 years failed policies, the GOP is protecting it's ineffective counterterror legacy and penchant to put politics above national security by outsourcing its politics of terror agenda to Scott Brown and his refrain " Americans don't want their taxpayer hiring attorneys for terrorists. We want to use our taxpayer dollars to kill these terrorists." From Hannity last night, Bobby Jindal joins this earsplitting chorus:

Well, absolutely. Two things are concerning me greatly. You know when you talk -- last night you heard him -- I heard him say he wanted to end the war. I didn't hear him say that he wanted to win the war. And those are two very different phrases.You know, when you look at what happened with the underwear -- the so- called underwear bomber. Senator-elect Brown got it right. Americans don't want their taxpayer hiring attorneys for terrorists. We want to use our taxpayer dollars to kill these terrorists.

It just -- it was very, very disturbing, not only rhetoric but the actions. This whole idea that you've got -- how much more evidence do they need? They've got a man, they catch him in the act, trying to blow up the plane, and they want to read him his Miranda rights.They want to arrest him, give an attorney. And by the way, as soon as he found out he could be silent, he did become silent. Who knows what additional information we could have learned if they hadn't done that?

First, it's pretty clear, that like Gov. McDonnell, Jindal has his facts soiled in regard to the interrogation of and intelligence gleaned from the underwear bomber:

Collins said in a statement that the fact that the FBI read Abdulmutallab his Miranda rights “likely foreclosed the collection of additional intelligence information.” But over the weekend, The Associated Press published the most comprehensive account to date of Abdulmutallab’s interrogation and found no evidence that Mirandization inhibited interrogators’ access to valuable information. FBI interrogators, to the contrary, read him his Miranda rights after they were satisfied that he had no further information about any further attacks.

Second, this whole notion that money should go solely to weapons to kill terrorists completely dismisses that a great deal of money, in fact a critical amount of it from a national security perspective, also goes to intelligence gathering and analysis and other areas of our national security apparatus. Jindal subscribes to the "deny, ignore and bomb" it mentality that imperiled American security and lives during the Bush years. In stark contrast, the Obama administration has implemented a counterterrorism strategy that embraces the full spectrum of American power, one which actually keeps America safe.

Jindal also doesn't understand that naming someone an enemy combatant and sending him to a military commission doesn't mean he is denied representative counsel and legal protections. In fact, the opposite is true. As Ken Gude explains:

These conservatives clearly believe that the criminal system impedes intelligence collection because defendants get lawyers in the criminal system who always tell their clients to stop talking to the government. The only problem with this argument is that their recommended solution to this apparent problem—charging detainees in military commissions or holding them without charge in military detention—doesn’t change a defendant’s access to an attorney...Military commissions also have procedures prohibiting self-incrimination and ensuring that statements from the defendant are made voluntarily. There is virtually no difference between military commissions and criminal courts in the provision and availability of defense counsel.

Gude also undercuts Jindal's argument by describing the litany of valuable and actionable intelligence America has obtained from terrorists with lawyers present. This intelligence gathered in the presence of legal counsel has, in fact, kept America safe:

Brent Vinas, an American convert to Islam captured in Pakistan in 2008 and turned over to the FBI, has proven to be one of the U.S. government’s most valuable sources of information about Al Qaeda. From the moment Vinas was in American custody he had all the access to attorneys and other rights afforded criminal suspects, and he still produced what one intelligence official called a “treasure trove” of information about Al Qaeda. In more than 100 interviews with counterterrorism officials, Vinas provided information that led to a Predator drone strike that killed a suspected militant, and his information has allowed counterterrorism officials “to peer deep inside the inner workings of Al Qaeda.”

David Headly—also known as Daood Gilani—was arrested in Chicago and charged in connection with the 2008 Mumbai attack that left more than 150 people dead. Headly pleaded not guilty, but he is cooperating with prosecutors and helped U.S. officials uncover a plan by Lashkar-e-Taibi to unleash a similar attack in Copenhagen, Denmark, targeting the newspaper that printed cartoons of the prophet Mohammed. Meeting with his attorney has not prevented him from providing intelligence information that disrupted at least one terrorist plot.

And, my god, all that information without torture! The bottom line is Gov. Jindal joins Gov. Pawlenty, Gov. McDonnell and other GOP leaders who talk tough on national security, but really don't actually project any confidence that they can keep America safe. False assertions, fearmongering bluster, and placing politics above national security simply does not protect American lives.

TrackBack

TrackBack URL for this entry:
http://www.typepad.com/services/trackback/6a00d83451c04d69e20120a826b333970b

Listed below are links to weblogs that reference Jindal Jumps Aboard the Keep America Afraid Wagon:

Comments

I would say every country who has successfully tamped down terrorism used regular ole law enforcement tactics. As a person with a background on this subject, the foolish wars Bush created showed he was doing what he wanted, not what was needed. Professionals told him this, but he was too busy listening to his warmongering, know nothing, neocon friends. Now we all pay for their ignorance.

Sexy, adventurous, trendsetting apparel and accessories of Seven Jeans and True Religion Jeans.Try these slim fitting and darker Seven for mankind jeans, show yourself like a globale star.

As a person with a background on this subject, the foolish wars Bush created showed he was doing what he wanted, not what was needed. Professionals told him this,

We all know these years china pallet racking in china develop very fast, now the design capacity of racking is very strong in china.
You can see every kind of china racking in china, includingDrive in racking,
cantilever racking, shelving,Longspan shelving, dexion racking,. We also have very experienced engineer to do the design and instlaation job.

as a whole contractor for refrigeration equipment, design, manufacturing, installation of cold store

We don't take the luxury route, just playing crazy exaggeration and assertive personality. In addition we break the traditional and innovative stainless steel bracelet, stainless steel rings and so on. Our stainless steel jewelry has great stage effects. The color, texture and design are very fashion. The breakthrough in molding achieves the strong sense of art stainless steel jewelry. It experiences a foreign land and customs, tracking the trend of the international fashion accessories. Our company welcomes the large stainless steel jewelry wholesalers to e-mail consultation.
E-mail: sus360@hotmail.com
website: http://www.sus360.com

GHD IV mini styler has a safety feature that gives you peace of mind, by turning itself off if it is left unattended for 30 minutes. The unique digital technology of GHD hair straightener means that the temperature is automatically controlled even quicker for even better styling.

Creating tight curls, flicks and waves as well as the perfect straight. The ideal styling tool for urban angels with short hair, men's hair and fringes.

price includes: ghd IV salon styler,ghd purple roll bag.

product features:
Auto sleep mode(A built in safety feature that gives you peace of mind by turning off if the ghd IV styler is left unallended for 30 minutes.)
Universal voltage(So that you can use your styler in any country without an adaptor.)
Advanced ceramic heaters(The ultimate heating technology for the ultimate shine and style creation.)
All our products are cheap,if you want to find cheap ghd,come here and that is right.

If you want to find GHD hair products,you can write GHD straightener,GHD hair straighteners,GHD straightners,GHD hair,straighteners GHD in google browse.

Generally speaking, if the clothing is very simple, there is no decoration, you can wear a brooch or pin. Brooch can be pinned to the collar on a jacket or suit, and the shoulders. However, if wearing a links london, it can only be worn on the inside of jacket, visible only from the neck, but not worn on the outside.Every twenty years the majority oflinks of london jewellerywill be out of date, only a single grain of precious stones, pearls and exceptions.

I am totally agree with your oppinion.this blog post is very encouraging to people who want to know these topics.

harika ama neden bu kadar uzun tuttunuz dayi konuyu?

seslisohbet siteleri arasında ekol bir adres sestonum hemen sohbette başlamak icin sestonum 'tıklayınız..! seslisohbet ve seslichat adreslerinin gözdesi hemen tıklayarak seslisohbet yapmaya başlaya bilirsiniz..!

sestonum
seslichat
seslisohbet


Everything is very open and very clear explanation of issues. was truly information. Your website is very useful. Thanks for sharing.

Türkiyenin ilk Hiphop Sitesi için tıkla -> Hiphop <-
Gekko G Fan Sitesi için tıkla -> Gekko G <-
Mask Animasyon sitesi için tıkla -> Mask animasyon <-

They turned to the crowd who were fleeing scattered, and then his wife came to the north with the crowd, her husband went to the south, so the two were separated from the turbulence of links of london war for nearly ten years. It was a chance, his wife came to the South in market saw a very familiar links of the links of london silver bracelet, the owner really see it - is his long-lost husband, the couple links of london bracelet hugged each other and cry, links of london silver bracelet so that they can find the most links of london sweetie bracelet pro-people is indeed to bring luck to the people's jewelry,

Are you fighting in Final Fantasy XIV for FFXIV Gil or Final Fantasy XIV Gil?
Can you suffer yourself being called newbie in FFXIV Gil game?
Are you seeking unofficial Buy FFXIV Gil cheats or Final Fantasy XIV guides in order to make Final Fantasy XIV Gil faster?
Can you get millions of Cheap FFXIV Gil in one day?
Even if you know how to farm Buy Final Fantasy XIV Gil you have to prepare enough Final Fantasy XIV Power Leveling first to buy height class Final Fantasy XIV Items, to upgrade your Final Fantasy XIV characters.
Buy aika gold
Then why not Buy FFXIV Gil from us?
In Final Fantasy XIV it's the fastest way FF14 Gil,for you to get rich. We are online 24 hours a day ready and 7 days one week to power up your FFXIV Gil accounts with FFXIV Gil. Here is the best place for the Final Fantasy XIV Online players to buy your Final Fantasy XIV Gil.
We are the professional website in FFXIV GIL sale.FFXIV GIL here,We are professional FFXIV Power Leveling online. We update price every single day to make sure we are the lowest in the market.(we don't compare price with scam sites which uses unbelievable low price to deceive.)
Our slogan:Cheapest price, Fastest delivery, Best service!

Cheap aika gold
In the 2 years we are in this field , AIKA Goldbuilt many business with tens of thousands of customers. They are very satisfied with our service.So if you want to get a log of Cheap FFXIV Gil ,no doubt ,come to our website to buy. Our customer service is ready for you on line now!(GM MMO)

thanks

ignore and bomb" it mentality that imperiled American security and lives during the Bush years. In stark contrast, the Obama administration has implemented a counterterrorism strategy that embraces the full spectrum of American power, one which actually keeps America safe.

fair and equal treatment need one powerful country like USA

Every being who owns a laptop will absolutely accept the claim of laptop concoction chargers. I would in actuality animadversion that laptop chargers are the a lot of important accent a part of all your laptop kit. Be it during a biking or even to watch a movie, it is important to allegation your laptop for non stop usage. After a laptop charger, you will not be able to use the laptop for a best time.

Hey, i've been reading this blog for a while and have a question, maybe you can help... it's how do i add your feed to my rss reader as i want to follow you. Thanks.

I never heard it used for any other way until Bush used it to discribe the Guantonamo detainees, Illegal or unlawful combatants is what I would have called them. that would have made more since sbobet sbobet sbobet

Me and my friend were arguing about an issue similar to this! Now I know that I was right. lol! Thanks for the information you post. ผลบอล ผลบอล ผลบอล

This article made me understand the genuineness. I understood many things, Related to the topic. I keep on wondering why people keep on wondering so much on the topic. People should start reading your blog in order to get maximum information on the stuff. ibcbet sbobet แทงบอล

This is an excellent post for me and I really enjoyed reading your blog.I hope you will keep updating your content constantly as you have one dedicated reader here. search engine optimization การทำ seo seo thailand seo

Hi,
First of all I can say LOVE that site. Your site's content is informative and I like the image can be sure that you're gone. I think many people have access to this site easily.

Great recap, I can’t even believe you were able to write that.I got so much anxiety just watching that and I thought I was the only one who had unnatural rage/hate for Kelly, glad I’m not the only one, as I was getting concerned. คอนโดใหม่ คอนโด บ้าน ขายคอนโด ซื้อคอนโด

As a person with a background on this subject, the foolish wars Bu

These are wonderful! Thank you for sharing.

SBOBET

TopClean carpet cleaning carpets, washes the ultimate clean-smelling home delivery will miss ...

The ultimate carpet cleaning carpet wash TopClean

I would in actuality animadversion that laptop chargers are the a lot of important accent a part of all your laptop kit. Be it during a biking or even to watch a movie, it is important to allegation your laptop for non stop usage. After a laptop charger, you will not be able to use the laptop for a best time.

Thanks for the insight. You are absolutely right.

Many people who are successful in these new paradigms that can be adapted to find the fastest, or the new ones come to realize that.

I am totally agree with your oppinion.this blog post is very encouraging to people who want to know these topics. คอนโด ขายคอนโด ซื้อคอนโด

Wow, Great post,Nice work, I would like tütüne son to read your blog every day As long Balderesi as our government yemek tarifi do the best, manzaralar I think we must appreciate them. nanomatik Its not easy to rule a country. moliva You don’t know bout that coz you orjin krem too busy to say some critics. formula 21 You should want and klavis panax see what happen. Zayıflama Thanks

Post a comment

If you have a TypeKey or TypePad account, please Sign In.

Guest Contributors
Founder
Subscribe
Sign-up to receive a weekly digest of the latest posts from Democracy Arsenal.
Email: 
Powered by TypePad

Disclaimer

The opinions voiced on Democracy Arsenal are those of the individual authors and do not represent the views of any other organization or institution with which any author may be affiliated.
Read Terms of Use